The Poison Debate Coming to an END, With astute observance of Expert Forensic study.   This Debate is as it was Downloaded. I Hope this will end this POISON between devotees, and that Criminal Action will be Taken against All the Perpetrators Around the World

All over facebook we see the questions/accusations that our beloved Srila Prabhupada was murdered via poison being administered into His milk. Devotees are fighting all the time over this and the fact is the only way that we will know the truth is by having Prabhupadas body tested yet again by the advanced forensic analysts who can tell us cent percent if He was or if He wasn’t.

Personally I believe He was but due to documents/evidence in almost everything Prabhupada did being tampered with by all camps I can not 100% trust in what ever evidence is now available.

As offensive as the thought is and even more offensive the act of taking Prabhupadas Body to be tested the truth needs to be told no matter which way it goes.

If it is proved beyond reasonable doubt that His Body was poisoned then I believe that this is enough for the ISKCON entirety to wake up and realise that everything that us Ritvik advocates have been saying for many years will finally be heard and action will.be taken.

If we are wrong then we take the humble approach and sincerely beg Guru and Gauranga’s forgiveness for creating such slander against those who we accuse.

So who do we petition to allow this to happen. To remove the Body of one recognised in our parampara is such an offensive act/thought but I believe we will be forgiven in order for the truth AS IT IS to be told.

Any thoughts on this? Also I am not up for debate. I do not desire to fight with speculators. I just want the truth and this is the only way to find it.

Ys Pancali dd

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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu So in your astute obsevance of Expert Forensic study there is need to dig up Srila Prabhupada’s ever transcendental body to satisfy your lack of faith in Srila Prabhupad’s own words regarding His murder.?????
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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu great u do that oh ye of little faith
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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner For the sake of all fallen souls not my own lack of faith yes Prabhu
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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu And why have you taken this mission upon your shoulders.. as far your comment that I am agressive .. you obviously have never been to War.. that is agressive
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Tina Marie Kirner

Tina Marie Kirner Why are you so envious Prabhu. Why are you so angry. Perhaps lusting after what you should not be lusting after. Prabhupada does say anger stems from unfulfilled lust. Prabhupada is such a gentleman and always spoke and acted in such a manner you would do well to follow in His footsteps. And Prabhu I am in war. One of the most aggressive ones. Prabhupada says once we come to Krsna consciousness we automatically declare war against Maya. Look how powerful she is. She destroyed ISKCON from the inside out, Ritviks are fighting Ritviks, and the whole of Krsna conscious society is now known as an apasampradaya…a laughing stock…and another nonsense religious cult.

I take it upon myself to try help everyone for this is what we are suppose to do as compassionate aspiring Vaisnavas.
My thread is simply to see what people think. But oh my Krsna you are just too angry.

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Myarth Thaeriss
Myarth Thaeriss Why everyone blame Maya ? Maya is not here to break you, she will break you anytime. This is job of Kali. Please stop with this. Also to relate what is written here, it is absolutely obvious from how Srila Prabhupada speak and evidence that he was poisoned. We should all demand justice, all of us should be angry but while we deal with this lets not forget that harinam sankirtan is our main duty.
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 · 3 July at 07:39

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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner Not blaming Maya Prabhu. She is very expert in Her service of pointing out who is and who is not. But we did declare war against Her did we not.
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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu No it was Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur.. His Son the Lion guru Srila Bhaktisidhanta Saraswati.. and His only devout Grhasta student the Dragon Guru His Divine Grace.. Abhaya (fearless ) Charanaravinda Srila Prabhupada.. they set the standard upon the battlefeild without sentimentalism .. They openly declared War as Generals.. we are the footsoldiers.. standing fast 40 odd yrs awaiting final instructions of Mission parameters.. it’s a go here ..
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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu Are you aware that more than 90% of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples are initiated not by Him personally .. making as He said Ritvik.. are you personally initiated by Him or some other Apoointed representative..
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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu Right just as Srila Prabhupada raised His voice interupting dull witted questioning saying ” ONE MOMENT” Thats what it takes to be Krsna Concious.. you imply His anger is sonething arising from unfullfilled lust, you are so outta here..
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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu Who cares what people think have you nothing better to do w/all your spare time sparring w/poor ole moi..
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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu YOUR SPECULATING AGAIN
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Tina Marie Kirner

Tina Marie Kirner Your comment where Prabhupada stated “Do not put me to death” you have misinterpreted Prabhu. And Prabhupada chastised this was His direct mercy. His anger (seemingly) is not like yours and mine Prabhu. Have you got nothing better to do with your time other than to argue with a mother of 7 who truly believes that we need to exhume Prabhupadas Body.

I do not need convincing that His body was poisoned but others do and as we only have 430 something plus years left of Mahaprabhus rein well while I am on this planet I am feeling sorry for everyone being caught up in this horrible age of Kali. I also have my children and their children and their children and their children to think about.

So calm down little mulik get a grip. See what I am trying to say. I will headline it for you.

I DO NOT NEED CONVINCING THAT PRABHUPADA WAS POISONED BUT OTHERS DO.

I think that if we bring fresh more advanced evidence then it could be a way for all devotees to take a serious look into the DOM, THE FINAL ORDER and the ousting of all GBC. Nothing else has worked. ISKCON gorus are making more and more so called devotees only to see them repeat the cycle.

Now.let me ask you…

Why is it wrong for me to care.

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Tamohara Dasa
Tamohara Dasa you are a foolish woman. time to be quiet now

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 · 3 July at 13:10

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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu your a scream you debate with ex-military father of nine
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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu As far as expose on gbc .. the only thing that will remove them is men that are willing to come out of retirement and dispatch the tics sucking the life from Srila Prabhupada’s legacy while He turns over in His Samadhi
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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner Please answer “Why is it wrong for me to care”?
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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu Well as you stated you are a mother of 7 Children.. your locus should be that.. if you sincerly want to help aspiring devotees which in itself is most admirable .. then please join us exposing Child Molester Rapist Paedophile guru.. that is the very real scary business at hand not trying to convince others on poison issue.. Prabhu
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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu At this point in my Krsna Concious aspirations as it is well known I am neatly preparing for formal assault against Paedophile gurus harming our Children.. while in New Vrndavan the thought crossed my mind to do just that to the Hamn man.. yet another devotee beat moi to the punch/pipe as you will.
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Jeremy Das
Jeremy Das Absolutely ridiculous conspiracy theories.
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 · 3 July at 08:06

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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu Really you were there to see hamm ovrertly molesting boys..

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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner Elaborate please Prabhu.

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Jeremy Das
Jeremy Das And now we get into your fantasies about child molestation. From assassination to child molestation. You make so much sense, I definitely want to engage you, totally. #Not

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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu Then one month after leaving there my friend/Godbrother Sulocana took a bullet as you well know.
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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner Everyone knows about the molesters etc. Every temple worldwide was held accountable and had to pay out.
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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu NOT YET THEY HAVN’T..
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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner I will be back later as I do have other duties. But please see this is a simple isthagoshi not world world 2
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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu World War 3 since the murder of our Srila Prabhupada 🙏
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 · 3 July at 08:12

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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner World war 3 since we took shelter of Guru and Gauranga.
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 · 3 July at 08:15

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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu ah which guru would this be Tina Marie Kirner..
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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner Our beloved Founding Father His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Svami Prabhupada…ki jai…

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 · 3 July at 12:24

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Michael Thompson
Michael Thompson Personally , I will Chant and be Happy as directed …
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 · 3 July at 11:57

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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner And you were also directed to wherever you go who ever you meet tell them about Krsna. We must present Krsna as He is and the only way any soul can go to Him is via the mercy of His bona fide representatives…i.e….Our parampara…

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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner Galen Prabhu and Jeremy dS Prabhu I have deleted the comment and replies that were completely vulgar. Please speak as if Prabhupada was standing right beside you.
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 · 3 July at 12:26

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Tamohara Dasa
Tamohara Dasa elitist witch

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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu You may see as vulgar yet we asure you this ( kliba homisex perversion ) needs a sound spanking.. and not over the lap but in the face for what things he directed towards aspiring devotees which he posted past year. I even went so far as to reason with him to no avail.. this sorry excuse for a being does not understand one thing, your sensibilities as a lady may have been slightly ruffled yet let me assuse you had this type of excrenent been directed toward your daughters ir my own it would be my withless self to stand for their honir and chastity.. 🙏 if you realize the cause of once again establishing good name of Srila Prabhupada then simply give your blessings as I shed the blood of deviants miscreants andall round nasty fellows embedded deep within Srila Prabhupada’s remnants of what once was the most vibrant beautiful gathering of Souls ever in this inauspicious of times to be a Parent..

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Shiv Shankar Das
Shiv Shankar Das Oh my god this is too much May lord krishna put mercy on you i really don,t know what is this now once again
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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner Open your eyes and you will see. Keep them closed and remain in darkness.
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 · 3 July at 12:38

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Shiv Shankar Das
Shiv Shankar Das Is this a joke what are you asking are you okay Tina Marie Kirner mataji
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 · 3 July at 12:38

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Shiv Shankar Das
Shiv Shankar Das I think you have to open your eyes and ears and read the history once again and if you can,t able to understand ask to your seninor devotee that what are you posting and i really don,t know now a days why anyone can arise a question for discussion not knowing what effect happen after posting this
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 · 3 July at 12:41

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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner Why would I joke about this. And no I have not lost my mind just tired of speculators, tampered evidence and bogus gurus and misled devotees. Why is everyone so afraid? Solution to all these problems in ISKCON could be resolved. Minority say Prabhupada was poisoned minority say he left a ritvik system the.Minority speak the truth but the majority refuse to actually face it. So evidence is needed from today’s advanced forensic scientist. Then the truth will be known and undeniable.
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Tamohara Dasa
Tamohara Dasa the proof is recent and solid. you spammed off the video of proofs what are you running from?

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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner No Prabhu. If it was evidence with out a doubt them charges would be laid and those involved would be charged with murder. You mention a lie detector test which is not admissible in a court of law so that also would do nothing. You and Galen Prabhu are more interested in name calling and speaking like sudras rather than seeing this as what it is.

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Shiv Shankar Das
Shiv Shankar Das Tina Marie Kirner mataji i respect you as a nice devotee but whatever you posting is very critical question
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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner It’s not critical Prabhu it is a discussion that has gone on for years and years . If Prabhupada was poisoned as I believe He was then there is only one way to find out.
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Tamohara Dasa
Tamohara Dasa bs the nuclear medicine and audiology forensics are very recent and PROVE murde4r!!@

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Tamohara Dasa
Tamohara Dasa this has not gone of for years, because the solid proofs JUST CAME OUT. but you are denying the reality, the proof is solid 100% I have a MS in health sciences.

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Shiv Shankar Das
Shiv Shankar Das Srila Prabhupada’s own words, stating that his poisoning is possible, is the strongest possible evidence, since these are the words of the acharya. Such directly revealed evidence is conclusive since it is beyond the four defects. Even supposedly water-tight forensic evidence has to take second place to the words of the acharya. Any sincere disciple of Srila Prabhupada will believe in His words.
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 · 3 July at 12:51

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Tamohara Dasa
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Tamohara Dasa

Tamohara Dasa I cannot post the video because someone has attacked it as spam; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v

I-enjoy ang mga video at musika na gusto mo, i-upload ang orihinal na content, at ibahagi ang lahat ng ito sa…
YOUTUBE.COM
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Tamohara Dasa
Tamohara Dasa =gOLeHjRhZMc&feature=youtu.be add this to the url imcomplete above, you will be able to find the video apparently they are fighting hard to suppress this information now
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Tamohara Dasa
Tamohara Dasa She spams my videos, apparently does not like the reality? You are a cheat.
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Tina Marie Kirner
Tina Marie Kirner Are you saying I spammed your videos Prabhu. Let me assure you as Krsna as my witness I never did such a thing.

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Shiv Shankar Das
Shiv Shankar Das I watch the video
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 · 3 July at 13:04

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Shiv Shankar Das
Shiv Shankar Das I am speechless
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Tamohara Dasa
Tamohara Dasa https://youtu.be/UQTuzUYD58I
Do what needs to be Done, HELL YEAH

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Tamohara Dasa
Tamohara Dasa Tamohara Dasa said to ; Tina Marie Kirner, et al, “A simple lie detector test would have wiped away all this years ago, but not a one of the suspects agreed to such a proof, means they are lying and hiding something. Now Nuclear Medicine and Audiology have confirmed the poison and whispers, both hard sciences. Prabhupada’s reply ; “To Me? ” was written down from the time, proving he heard the whispers which were not written down but revealed years later by Krsna’s arrangements. So the background whispers and giggling of Jaya and Bhav are real, plus audiology confirms same, there is no doubt. This within three days before he died with all the symptoms of cadmium poisoning? And you say there is no proof?? Are you mad?”
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Galen Yuyutsu
Galen Yuyutsu cricket chirp chirp.. cricket chirp chirp.. damn it’s all of a sudden very quiet isn’t it .. 🙌👀 😏

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Bvnm Vamsivadana Das
Bvnm Vamsivadana Das Srila Prabhupada stated himself that he was poisoned. That is enough proof. The words of the pure devotee is proof enough.
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Dhira Madhava Das
Dhira Madhava Das I don’t think so, the truth is already told and the July 9th letter is enough to prove that Srila Prabhupada is current Deeksha Guru, now it is up to the candidate to make a choice
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Mario Pineda
Mario Pineda Top forensics prove that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned. I paid for a small part of forensic tests and I have a letter from the scientist that performed the tests, that he is oblaged to advise for a criminal investigation in the case of Srila Prabhupada.
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Tina Marie Kirner

Tina Marie Kirner Hare Krsna Prabhus. Pamho. All glory to jagat guru Srila Prabhupada.

Please accept my humble apologies and I accept fully that what I have stated above was passionate and in fact uneducated. I watched the videos provided by Tamohara Dasa Prabhu and then the last 24 hours researched a lot about the poisoning mentioned in the documents. I can not defeat what is clearly proof. So please excuse me and I ask for forgiveness. I did not realize that hair samples were analyzed in 2005 and fully accept I am completely wrong in all I have stated above. If I did offend anyone it was not my intention. May you all be blessed eternally at the lotus Feet of Sri Guru and Sri Gauranga.

Your servant

Pancali dd

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Tamohara Dasa
Tamohara Dasa Glories to Mataji! You are a humble and discerning individual. I came expecting to be blasted, and that would be ok, but i am myself happy to see your reply. pamho AGTSP !

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Urmila Dasi
Urmila Dasi I offer my obeisances to you mataji and prabhuji. I hope this discussion satisfies all doubts about this topic. Those who do not accept this conclusion are not worthy of discussion.

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Tamohara Dasa
Tamohara Dasa Urmila Dasi Is this the famous Urmila Mataji, the teacher and GBC member? I would be very surprised and glad. On the other hand, pamho Mataji, more likely you share that Name. Nice to meet you and your comment is very much appreciated.

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Urmila Dasi
Urmila Dasi No I am not. I only share the name.

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Tamohara Dasa
Tamohara Dasa Urmila Dasi You are more than that other Urmila by a crore of yojanas.

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Tamohara Dasa
Tamohara Dasa we have an email thread please join it . if you would like, provide email address in messages or by email Tamoharadasa@yahoo.ca

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Aradhana Das
Aradhana Das This is looks like universal war between real lovers of Srila Prabhupada devotees and demons who wearing a dress of devotees and look like devotees.
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Milan Madhav Das
Milan Madhav Das I don’t know much about the detailed case, but I believe Facebook isn’t the right place to discuss this things Prabhuji/Mataji. You maybe right and even I felt bad when I heard the tape of Prabhupad saying so..
But what I mean to say is, in ISKCON now, when we go for preaching when they join, and these facts act as an adulteration to their faith. We really done want Prabhupad’s mission to fragment as Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur Prabhupad’s mission, I hope Your Grace would agree with it. Please correct me at any point I’m wrong, I’m much younger to everyone of you, and forgive this rascal if have offended you. It wasn’t my intention.
YS
Milan Madhav Das
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Dhira Madhava Das
Dhira Madhava Das At one point even i had felt like that when someone else had told the same thing.But it’s all about survival of the fittest(he who has very strong Faith in spiritual master’s words ..who’s non different than Hari)
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Jayamadhava Das
Jayamadhava Das The New devotees,,,many have been CUDDLED…by leaders and guru’s to the point of,,,ALL IS JUST OK in Iskcon,,,,,But its NOT-OK-There is Mission Drifts-Then This–The Posion issue wont just Go Away…The Latest- Research by Advanced TEC. (Previously not available Shows- 100 % Cadmium Poisoning in HDG Srila Prabhupads hair. The Scientists were paid and just doing their job’s properly it was – Double checked -and Totally Professional–IMPARTIAL–So its obvious Something is Wrong,,The GBC are guilty of a Coverup…Who did the act ,?,,,ONLY KRSNA Knows…They will PAY. No Escape…Its 2017- We may never know who was envolved,..DO NOT TOUCH Srila Prabhupadas Samadi-…Just Preach KC. for him. JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED BY Lord Sri KRSNA-Lord Nrsima Dev—-and The Yamaraj,,,,,Just dont preoccupy yourself with this or it will destroy your Bhakti Creeper–Already I hear godbrothers SCREAMING -KILL the GBC–Kill This Godbrother or That guru or Guy,,HEY–This is NUTS—Insanity–Not to be made public at this point in time.–We have no control,,over the GBC,,,They do as THEY WANT (we already know they dont respect godbrother/sisters who Disaree with them. I agree with Milan Madhav das Prabhuas advice too…CALM DOWN -Yes we as disciples should be upset and mad as hell but There is only so much we can do..Calm down-LET GOD DO THIS JUSTICE THING–Im convinced Srila Prabhupada would want us AS HIS DISCIPLES TO PROTECT HIS ISKCON – We will please Prabhupada By Preaching KC in a POSITIVE MOOD to New People, preach 100 %-only on his behalf STRONGLY -Show the public -the Iskcon HE Gave us (not the Compromised one) and Not Dwell on things We Have no control OVER,,OK Be well,,,Respectfully-YS,JMD-Moscow Russia- ————————————–HARE KRSNA—–
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